# How To Build The AGI Future: Bob McGrew

**Author:** Garry Tan
**Type:** Video
**URL:** https://www.ycombinator.com/library/M6-how-to-build-the-agi-future-bob-mcgrew
**YouTube ID:** eW7rUtYHD9U

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According to OpenAI's former Chief Research Officer Bob McGrew, reasoning and test-time compute will unlock more
reliable and capable AI agents— and a path to scale to AGI.

In this episode of How to Build the Future, YC's @garrytan sits down with Bob to discuss the lessons learned from his
time at OpenAI, scaling laws, his advice for startups, and what all of this means for the jobs of the future.

