# Three paths in the tech industry: founder, executive, or employee

**Author:** Michael Seibel
**Type:** Essay
**URL:** https://www.ycombinator.com/library/4h-three-paths-in-the-tech-industry-founder-executive-or-employee


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When people ask me for tech career advice I find it helpful to lay out the three paths I’ve encountered most in my
career: founder, executive, and employee. I’m leaving out investor because the best path to being an investor that I’ve
seen starts with being successful (or failing) at one of these three first.

Below I’ll outline what I see as the pros/cons and useful strategies for each role.

I wrote this post though because when I talk to people about their careers I’m surprised at how often they focus on only
one of these paths without taking the time to consider other options. Often when they get advice, people tell them to
follow the path that they followed (as a YC partner and former founder, I’m very guilty of this).

I don’t attach value judgements to these three paths. In my ten years in The Bay Area I’ve seen friends lead successful
and fulfilled lives following all three.

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## Founder

**Pro**  
• Work on something you’re passionate about  
• Bring something new into the world  
• High level of responsibility often inspires extreme productivity  
• Choose the people you work with  
• Learn new skills at an extremely fast pace

**Con**  
• Incredibly stressful. Even success hurts  
• Probably won’t maximize your personal earnings  
• significant financial/skillset/location hurdles to get started  
• Large scale success often requires decade plus commitment  
• Commitment level can significantly hurt personal relationships

**Strategy for People Who Want to be Founders**  
Your initial goal is to accumulate the prerequisites to being a founder.

**1.** Identify potential teammates you can work with who have the required technical skills to help you build your
MVP.  
**2.** Figure out the financial plan. I.e. Do you have enough money in savings, do you have friends/family who can
provide seed investment, can you bootstrap, can you reduce your spending and save enough give yourself 6-12 months to
work on your idea?  
**3.** Identify a problem that you and your potential teammates are passionate about solving.  
**4.** The least important (but still required) is having an idea on how of how to solve the problem.

Many people who want to be founders have one or more of these prerequisites missing. A popular mistake is trying to
hustle *around* a missing prerequisite instead of *solving the underlying issue*. If your team doesn’t have the
technical skills to build your MVP, don’t work with a dev shop. Make friends with people who do have these skills.
Convince them to join you.

Often times there are hard barriers preventing people from starting a company. In these cases my best advice is to move
to a tech hub (preferably the Bay Area) and work for a tech company until you can save the money, make friends with the
right potential teammates, or discover the problem that you are passionate about. It usually takes at least 10 years to
build a large and impactful company. It’s fine to delay your start date in order to give yourself the best chance of
success.

Notice that one of the prerequisites isn’t experience. Experience is over-valued (not completely unimportant - but
massively over-valued) by people who are thinking about starting a company. In almost all cases, no matter what
knowledge you bring to the table, you will learn most of what you need to know about your problem, your customer, and
the best solution after you start your company.

## Executive (Senior Manager at a Large Company)

**Pro**  
• Stable income/benefits/etc.  
• High level of prestige (only very successful founders have more prestige)  
• A higher likelihood of having a huge impact (given that most startups fail).  
• Doesn’t require building a team and acquiring money to get started

**Con**  
• Producing results isn't necessarily how you move up the corporate ladder. Internal politics are usually as important,
if not more so.  
• Success can be hampered or even prevented by others inside of your organization  
• Requires the ability to pick companies that will be growing and successful for a long time  
• Takes a long time to get a significant amount of responsibility

**Strategies for People Who Want to be Executives**  
I actually see two strategies within this path.

The first strategy is to pick a company that is growing quickly. If you do manage to pick a company like this early,
then you’ll get more responsibility as the company grows - I also assume you are a friendly and productive team player.
For example, if you were one of the first 100 people at Facebook and you stayed there for ten years, you would have many
opportunities to become an executive. The hard part here is that picking a company that will grow rapidly for many years
is extremely difficult (in many ways your task is similar to a VC).

The other path is to go to work for a more established company. The people I’ve seen do this effectively don’t think
about working their way up within one company alone. They often think about moving diagonally up between a set of
established name brand companies until they eventually land in an executive role. For example, you start out of college
at Google, get hired at Dropbox as a team lead, move to Yahoo to become a director, move back to Google - so on and so
forth.

People on the executive path either have to think like VCs and pick a company that is going to be one of the winners
over the next 10 years, or have their head on a swivel to constantly look for better and better opportunities both
inside and outside of their current company.

## Employee (individual contributor / middle manager)

**Pro**  
• Stable income/benefits/etc.  
• More work and fewer meetings  
• More often directly affecting the customer through your work  
• With a high demand skill-set you have flexibility in where/how much you work  
• Often have more time to spend with friends and family

**Con**  
• Productivity can be blocked by bad management  
• You often don’t have control what you work on  
• Often don’t get a voice in major decisions - even when you “know the right answer”  
• It’s harder to become very wealthy  
• It can be boring  
• If you don’t maintain a high demand skillset or your productivity drops it’s easier to be fired

**Strategies for People Who Want to be Employees**  
Your strategy for picking a place to work is similar to an exec’s. You either need to spot and join a quickly growing
company or find a way into a well known successful company. It’s much easier to go between brand name companies when you
start with a brand name company. Also, in my experience, it’s much easier to optimize this path as a software developer.

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The last thing I’ll say is it takes time to be good at each role. When you’re in college there is this idea that you
should take your 20s to discover yourself and the find the work that is most enjoyable to you. The problem is that if it
takes 5-10 years to truly get good at something and you spend 10 years discovering what you want to get good at…it’s
going to take a long time for you to feel like a highly skilled productive person (and to recieve the rewards that come
with this). It’s not that you shouldn’t explore, it’s that you need to understand the costs of that exploration and plan
accordingly.

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*Thanks to Daniel Gross, Aaron Harris, and Craig Cannon for reading drafts of this post.*

